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90 Guns...

June 27th 2008 00:54






...for every 100 people.


That's how many firearms are floating about in the United States of America.


That makes it the most heavily armed society in the world. .


Food for thought.


Yummy.


And now the US Supreme Court has voted in favour of overturning a ban on civilians owning firearms in Washington DC. Apparently the judges seem to think that there is not enough violence in that nation's capital.


Goody! Now we can all look forward to reading more articles like this:


US factory worker in gun rampage

"A man who opened fire on colleagues at a plastics factory in Kentucky warned his girlfriend two hours before that he would kill his boss, police said.

Wesley Higdon, 25, shot dead five fellow workers and injured another before turning the handgun on himself.

He opened fire at the Atlantis Plastics factory in Henderson city after arguing with a male supervisor".




Awesome.



-Ruby

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Comment by Steven Barrett's OpEd Blog

June 27th 2008 01:11
If I was a real cynical bastard, I'd go right out and order tons of stocks in a very well-known gun manufacturer down river from me. You've probably heard of it, at least in a Dirty Harry movie: Smith and Wesson.

No, I won't buy into either cynicism or Smith and Wesson, and I hope to God nobody else does either. Look up ABC News Nightline (I'm sure the network has a website for the show) and you'll see a story that was covered by reporter John Donvan about a group of Virginians at a barbeque who were all packing heat as if they were packing Blackberries.

Inasmuch as I hate the rudeness caused by the intrusiveness of these damn cell phones, etc. I'd rather see a bunch geeks sitting around talking about the heatpackers while rolling their eyes in the same disgust I felt last night.

I'm really very upset and nervous for what's going to happen fairly soon. Awfull, awfull, awfull.

Comment by Louie

June 27th 2008 01:15


Love your work. Irony is, the only people who should have guns are the ones who would never dream of using them.

Comment by Jeff Musall

June 27th 2008 02:04
Ruby...we agree on so much - but on this one I'm torn. I detest the "gun mentality" that so many have. I detest hunters who get drunk and shoot wildy. I would welcome very strict regulation. But I also own two guns. I grew up in rural areas where school abscence was excused if a parent put "went hunting" on a note.
I lived in cities for years, and only in the last few picked it up again. I still haven't decided if I will hunt this fall or not, but I likely will, at least a day or two. For those who have no understanding of the concept, it's not just big bad hunter blowing away defenseless animal. When done right, hunting is challenging and is part of an outdoor management program that actually benefits animal populations. For example, here in Oregon only about 10 percent of those who buy an elk tag actually take an elk.
I can see how someone who doesn't eat meat could be offended. If a person buys burger from the grocery, their process is much less humane.
I think the right way to control guns might be to say that once you own a gun, you are responsible, at least in some degree, for anything that gun does, ever. That would be sobering to gun owners.
While that would help, I don't know that it would be enough to keep wackos from going crazy. It used to be a person in such a situation would kill themself, and it would barely make the news. It since has become fashionable to take as many with you as you can. That's a hard nut to crack.

Comment by RubySoho

June 27th 2008 02:22
Hi Steven, I agree, i wonder when the madness will end. I'll look up that ABC story, thanks.

Louie, isn't that the truth? It's also like how the people who should be running the world wouldn't dream of running for politics and the people who should have lots of kids don't...hahaha.

Jeff, oh well we are bound to disagree on some things, it's all good. To be honest with you I don't have a problem with people hunting for food as long as they really intend to eat the animal.

The problem is how to control gun ownership so that people who buy them are actually using them for such purposes? 90 guns for every 100 people. Tell me if I am being presumptuous here but dare I say that there are not 90 genuine hunters in every 100 citizens in the US?


Comment by Jeff Musall

June 27th 2008 03:28
Actually, I would favor a handgun ban or near ban. The problem would be making it work with so many already out there. And a big part of it is more than just guns....American culture is to blame too. Alot of guns doesn't automatically mean alot of crime (Switzerland is an often cited example)
Let's face it, many Americans think violence first, ask questions later. Just look at what has happened in Iraq. We have the worst kind of leader, if we want less trigger-happy jackasses.
Here is a striking example of how America is more afraid of sex than violence. Remember Radiohead's OK Computer? There was an animated video from it, which was pretty much this animated guy kind of having a bad day. There are two scenes you need to know.
1. He gets his arms and/or legs amputated ( I can't remember exactly) and he falls into the water.
2. A couple of mermaids find him and bring him to the surface.
At the time I had both MTV and a Canadian music channel. On the Canadian channel, the amputations were blurred out, and the mermaids were topless.
On MTV, the amputations were all there, blood squirting and everything. But the mermaids had their breasts blurred out.

Comment by Morgan Bell

June 28th 2008 08:15
one of the main lobbyists to overturn the washington law was a gay guy who has experienced homophobic violence and wanted the right to protect himself CLICKHERE for my opinions on that

90 guns for every 100 people . . . that figure is obscene

Comment by Jeff Musall

June 29th 2008 02:21
Morgan, I checked the other post and yes - it is alarming. Here is something else - I wrote an article on another site and had someone who calls himself "Stryker" come on and say that liberals must be so heart broken, because of the Supreme Court ruling. He went on, but closed by hitting on something other neo-con wackos have too...to some of them a time of reckoning is coming, when they will be able to attack liberals, gays, atheists, anyone they don't like - and they say "lock and load." While I don't like to respond on the same level, I do feel strong in saying that if they come to my liberal house and attack they might be surprised.

Comment by Morgan Bell

June 29th 2008 11:51
a time of reckoning?
geez there are so many scary people in the world!

Comment by Winston

June 30th 2008 20:14
You know, I don't own a gun, nor have I ever shot one. I am not opposed to them, however, and would probably get a kick out of going to a shooting range. I don't really care about guns either way, honestly.

As far as banning them goes, in the vast majority of cases, the people who go through the process to become legal gun owners are not the ones committing crimes, and the people using guns for crime and violence probably already have an illegally obtained firearm anyway. So I'm not really sure what good banning or not banning guns does, as it doesn't really seem to impact the bottom line.

Regarding Jeff's last comment, I tend to think that the ultra-whackos who say things like that are only so much bluster and hot air (most of them, anyone). Still, in the unlikely event that the political climate changes that badly and those types of attacks ever actually DO become a reality, I'll be the first person getting a firearm for my home.

Comment by Hoot

July 1st 2008 04:25
its amazing how many of you sell your fellow man short.plain and simple if your not walking around stabbing people with knifes which we all own, when a gun is put in your average mans hands he doesn't immediately turn into a criminal, a robber a murderer. I don't own any guns but i could so see how a total ban would mean anarchy i mean think prohibition i mean that was just alcohol the number of guns would improve exponentially. learn from our mistakes. i know i already wrote too much but im a republican white male aged 18 to 64 and its amazing how liberals openly support racist gun laws, where minorities are concentrated heavily, gun laws tend to be the strictest....so what if they did an alcohol ban only in LA, inner city Chicago and D.C i mean...that would be wrong......i dunno i guess it just boils my piss to see how openly rasisct that is but will never ever get any press release

Comment by RubySoho

July 1st 2008 04:33
Sorry Hoon, what? I'm an Australian and we have very strict gun laws and we are from anarchy here.

But how are gun laws racist? I've never heard that claim before.

Also, I don't think all people who have guns are criminals. i just think tighter gun laws would make it less likely for some people to get hold of guns and mis-use them.

As I said, I live in another country and from over here, your gun laws seem to be way too lenient.

Comment by Hoot

July 1st 2008 05:27
no i understand that. and i probably used the wrong word.....but with the outlawing of alcohol AL Capone literally owned the city of chicago cops other gangsters everyone....alchohol use didnt go down people didnt stop. look at pot in the states i mean its illegal....doesnt nesarily mean EVERYONE cant get their hands on it i mean the outlawing or guns would only create a very high priced under world full of gangsters and smugglers only increasing the numbers of violent criminals ....and as far as racism think about it....big cities lots of minorities guns are bad open country more rural white folks...eh guns not so bad...think about it SORRY FOR MY SPELLING IM IN A BIG POKER TOURNEY NO TIME TO CORRECT

Comment by RubySoho

July 1st 2008 05:40
haha, why thank you for taking time out from your tournament to comment on my blog.

But I think maybe the reason gun laws are tighter in the inner cities is because they do have higher crime rates there. It's kind of a chicken or the egg thing, I don't think liberals are targeting minorities. It kinda stands to reason that areas with a denser concentration of people will have more crime and thus more need for gun control.

Also, the whole 'guns for recreation and hunting' argument makes more sense in rural areas where people are more likely to go hunting. I don't think many people in Chicago shoot elk on the weekends.


Your 'I'm a republican aged 18-64' comment made me laugh. That's quite a demographic. Very all-encompassing. Good luck with the poker.

Comment by Anonymous

July 2nd 2008 09:42
I wonder how much gun crime is related to drug crime. In big cities the population is more dense and the people are generally poorer and turn to drugs. For drug gangs this is a huge market and the more cut-throat you are (such as killing people with weapons) the more territory you gain. It would be nice to see us take a more rational approach to drug addiction and how that would affect crime. The only good from extensive gun control would be impulse killings like school shootings and work shooting like mentioned above. Those things are not really thought out ahead of time. But then you could just set off a bomb.

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