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A Special Message To All Pro-Lifers

October 18th 2008 15:15

MY UTERUS IS NONE OF YOUR GODAMNED BUSINESS!

That's all. Carry on. Thank you.

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Comment by Morgan Bell

October 18th 2008 16:11

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ahh it finally got too much for you! haha
dont worry ive been on the brink of swearing for days!

Comment by Catana

October 18th 2008 17:28

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Well, that's bound to get somebody's attention!

I won't even ask what pissed you off -- there's no lack of examples.

Comment by Norm

October 18th 2008 21:52

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As an amateur lifter, I have had many unpleasant experiences with nutters hanging around my Holden ute. I've since discovered these people are pro-lifters. You can spot them by the burst anuerism, I now know. Don't spot them though, they won't return the favour.

Comment by RubySoho

October 18th 2008 23:10

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Hi Morgan,

yeah, i'm really getting sick of listening and reading people whom i have never met discussing my body like it's public property. oh yeah, and that's the tame version version of the post! I see I have attracted a revenge post already. And this post has been discussed by two people who claim never to read my blog. Interesting. Someone needs to tell dum-dum that Victoria (the state that he lives in), has just approved a bill decriminalising abortion. So no, it isn't actually "everybody's business".

Hi Catana,

It was the Obama "radical abortion stance" post that tipped me over the edge. Since when has been pro-choice been radical? Obama says abortion is "between a woman, her doctor, her family and her pastor". Oh my god! What a crazy freak! What an extreme ideology!

Hi Norm,

I try not to spot them. I'd rather not see any of them. But sometimes they are impossible to avoid.

Comment by Someone

October 19th 2008 07:27

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I am waiting for the day the pro-abortionists start picketing and bombing churches.

Ah, revenge shall be sweet. To quote maddox, "I have a different stance on abortion: I'm against abortion, but for killing babies. That way everyone loses, and I win. I'm neither pro choice, nor pro life; I'm pro you-shutting-the-hell-up. "

Comment by RubySoho

October 19th 2008 07:32

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Who are the pro-abortionists? Are there really people running around insisting all pregnant women get abortions, regardless of how the women themselves feel about the matter?

What a scandalous bunch of people. Glad I've never met one.

p.s I'd be happy for everyone to shut the hell up about abortion too. But it seems it is impossible to click on the homepage without seeing at least one blogger (usually a man which makes it all the more irksome), discussing my innards like they were public property.

Comment by Morgan Bell

October 19th 2008 07:47

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shame the public interest in womens bodies doesnt extend to free pre-natal care, maternity leave, child support, or contraception

ive noticed old rich infertile people seem to be particularly vocal on the issue . . . theyve obviously never been able to put themselves in the shoes of the disadvantaged

Comment by RubySoho

October 19th 2008 08:10

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Morgan, well that would require actually caring about the wellbeing of the woman and the child.

I have heard that the Rudd govt is planning to introduce paid maternity leave next year. So that's a step forward for Australia.

No such plans in America where the pro-life movement is strongest. And when I say "strongest", I mean most annoying and hysterical.

Comment by Someone

October 19th 2008 08:15

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Pro-abortion, pro choice... tomayto tomahto (doesn't quite work in text, you get the idea)

Honestly, I have a solution. Every jack*** (read: actively vocal) pro-life woman can volunteer to have a soon-to-be-aborted foetus transplant. That way the lifers get life, and the choicers don't. Everyone wins, especially me, because I can stop hearing people whinge about the whole affair.

Comment by RubySoho

October 19th 2008 09:04

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I get the idea, but the idea is a somewhat erroneous one. Being pro-choice is not the same thing as being pro-abortion. It's simply about acknowledging that women have a right to privacy and bodily autonomy. There are plenty of women who would never dream of having an abortion themselves, but likewise wouldn't dream of dictating to another woman whether she could have one or not.

The problem with your fetus transplant idea is that you can't remove the fetus from a woman's body without destroying it. Which puts to bed the pro-life notion that it is a separate human being. Fact is, until it is viable, it is a part of the woman. And hers to do with as she chooses.

Comment by Someone

October 19th 2008 09:36

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Of course I don't say pro abortion as in you want to abort every little sucker, but short for pro-(having the right to an) abortion.

And as for foetal transplant, they have already created an artificial uterus and successfully implanted an egg , but had to be halted because of IVF law, which I find funny. So yeah, I'm wrong, but it's only a matter of time!

Also worth noting on the whole pro choice thing, once exogenesis is further developed, the state could legally force you to undergo major surgery to remove a foetus safely rather than a less invasive yet lethal procedure. How's that for pro-choice?

Comment by RubySoho

October 19th 2008 10:15

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I know what you meant, i just wanted you to be aware that the term "pro-abortion" is used by the pro-life crowd to insinuate that it is the actual act of abortion that we are extolling as opposed to the right of a woman to have control over her reproductive organs. Pro-lifers are so called because they "choose life" (notice the ironic use of the word "choose") so by using this definition, it would appear that "pro-abortionists" would always favour an abortion over carrying a pregnancy to term. And that really is not the case.

Just take a gander over at the top post on the Orble homepage and you will see what I am getting at. Of course that particular post isn't directed at me and isn't a response to this post. Because that writer never reads this blog. He told me so, many many times.

That last sentence of yours is interesting. Are you saying the government is only going to make a certain type of abortion legal? In which country?

Comment by Someone

October 19th 2008 10:29

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I did a little research. In Australia, the form of abortion they use isn't the safest for the mother, but is less taxing or something for the abortionist and so is most widely used. Basically the point made was the doctor gets to choose the method of abortion, not the patient.

Anyway, my point was, at the moment abortion is the only way to get the baby out of the woman. Taking it out alive doesn't make a difference, because the baby still dies. However, once artificial womb tech develops, having an abortion will be murder, apparently, because the option of saving the baby is a viable one. So really they can force you to have major surgery and save the baby if you want it gone, instead of a non invasive but foestus-lethal alternative.

Here's my source, if you're interested. q=foetal transplant ethics&source=bl&ots=b2Ab0f4Vx4&sig=xQeonVhcI0EkfEf5x46cCwM86jg&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=2&ct=result#PPA83,M1" target="_blank">Enjoy.

Comment by RubySoho

October 19th 2008 10:46

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Ah America of course. It's still all hypothetical though and even though ectogenisis may eventuate, that is not to say the State will be able to force a woman to have a fetal transplant as opposed to an actual abortion. I don't think most people would find that palatable. Also, it would be a move of the most extreme hypocrisy for the pro-life movement to adopt that strategy since the crux of their argument is that nature should be allowed to take its course and that women who have abortions are playing god.

As is it, I am not convinced that it is the life of the fetus that the pro-life movement are concerned about so much as controlling the lives and sexuality of women. Fetal transplants would still allow a woman to choose not to go through with a pregnancy and i just don't think they will go for that.

My guess is that the pro-lifers will fight it tooth and nail.

And one more thing. There are over one million abortions performed in America each year. Would it be possible to transplant such a large amount of fetuses? Not to mention hat the whole process would be costlier and more time consuming.

Thanks for the link. I had no idea any of this was going on.

Comment by alt_ed

October 19th 2008 10:56

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STOP BEING SUCH A SLUT!

Comment by RubySoho

October 19th 2008 11:09

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NEVER!!!

Comment by Someone

October 19th 2008 11:57

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The fact that doctors get to choose a method that isn't the safest for the woman in Australia leads me to conclude that unless a doctor enjoys killing babies, and once exogenesis becomes viable, then Aussie women could be forced to undergo major surgery in lieu of a non invasive abortion....

Comment by Mister Smith

October 19th 2008 12:00

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Hi Ruby
Your fury at pro-lifers is understandable because you feel that they are trying to impose their morals onto you, and they are. However, from their point of view they are saving another human being from murder. It is not about telling you what do do with your body - it is the 2nd life that your body contains that they are concerned about. If you have the conviction of your beliefs then you should be able to brush off/or laugh at extremists. This issue is one that attracts the most violent and ugly views and polarizes two distinct camps - each becoming the the target of attack for the other. Most of us fall somewhere in-between.

Comment by RubySoho

October 19th 2008 12:23

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Hi Mister Smith. This wasn't intended as just a pro-choice post. What I am finding unpalatable at the moment is the way in which many pro-life advocates discuss the issue without even considering the point of view of the pregnant woman or women in general.

They discuss abortions and pregnancies as if the fetus is being carried not by a human being in her own right but by a secondary incubator. Just witness the "lifeboat analogy" on the other post. Comparing a pregnant woman to an inanimate object? Really?

I am curious though, how can you be somewhere in between? Do you support a woman's right to choose or do you think abortion should be illegal?

Comment by Mister Smith

October 19th 2008 13:08

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I don't think that abortion should be made illegal because that would have some terrible consequences. I know that for me abortion is wrong - I am sure about this because I had an abortion at a time when it was so common among the girls I knew that it seemed like an extension of birth control - but everyone has the right to make their own decision. I think that what is needed is better education in avoiding pregnancy so the decision does not have to be made at all and more support for girls who find themselves in that predicament and want to go ahead with the pregnancy.

Comment by RubySoho

October 19th 2008 13:23

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Fair enough. I agree with you on nearly every point. I don't think abortion is 'wrong' however, in the early stages of the pregnancy. The cut off mark for me would be about the 14-16 week mark. After that, I would hope that women would only terminate in cases of severe fetal defects or health problems of the mother.

That makes me decidedly less 'radical' than the Victorian Parliament which recently approved a bill making abortion in this state legal for any reason until the 24th week.

Comment by Someone

October 19th 2008 15:57

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That's consistent with US law unless I'm mistaken. That's around the time a foetus' brain activity is classified as sentient, and the time their lungs develop enough, or something similar. I don't have enough internet quota to go recheck my sources though

Comment by Dianna G

October 19th 2008 20:12

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Thank you Ruby. How refreshing.

You know what would be equally refreshing?

If people would stop talking about this.

I'm pretty sure after SL's scandal we all know how everyone feels on the issue. People don't need to keep bringing it up.

~Dianna

Comment by RubySoho

October 19th 2008 23:03

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I think US law dictates that abortion is legal in the first trimester. After that it can only be performed if complications arise.

You're welcome Dianna. I have just seen one too many ant-abortion posts on here lately and I kinda just snapped. I'm sick of people talking about my body as if I were just an inanimate object...like a lifeboat. The reason they keep bringing it up is because they want to take our rights away. More fool them. The louder they get, the harder we will fight them.

Comment by Jeff Musall

October 20th 2008 05:03

Damn, it would be nice if we were able to not have to keep covering the same ground, eh? Here's a couple of thoughts...I wonder how many men who are so determined to have their say on a woman's choice have said things like "we don't need that thing to come between us" or "don't worry, I can control myself" or something similar to a woman...just a thought. And something else...if a woman is a boat, what is a man? An oar?

Comment by Dianna G

October 20th 2008 23:51

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Ruby-

Amen.

~Dianna

Comment by Anonymous

October 26th 2008 02:37

FINALLY, I agree with you: your uterus is god damned, and nobody's business; especially any wannabe be prophet dog.

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