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Crazy Conservative Quote Of The Week!

May 16th 2008 02:08
Some things are too good (or bad, depending on which way you look at them), not to share. I came across this quote on a mega-conservative American blog. I'm not giving the link because I refuse to give you easy access to the thoughts of this truly frightening man but in the interests of citing my sources, the name of the blog is included at the end of this post.

Just to give you a little background on the writer of this blog- he thinks Bush is doing a pretty good job overall, he thinks the war in Iraq is going well, he thinks all liberals should be lined up and shot for their "crimes against humanity", he thinks Augusto Pinochet was the best thing that ever happened to Chile and America should be congratulated for putting him into power and he thinks all Muslims should be deported from all Western countries immediately.

But that's not what this quote is about. But it's gold nonetheless, so without further ado, I present you with my first ever, crazy conservative quote of the week:


Since I was a child I have heard, read, and seen reports about how much of the world's resources we few greedy Americans consume...So Average Joe American uses as much energy as 370 Ethiopians, so what? What the hell do Ethiopians contribute to the world? Nothing but more Ethiopians who consume the Earth's oxygen, beg us for money, food, and medicine and then bad mouth us for helping them.

We deserve to use more resources. It is Americans who have contributed the most in medicine, physics, and chemistry (38% of all Nobel Prizes); we are the most generous people on this planet; when there is a disaster somewhere the world expects us to help. We contribute more to the world than we get back; if the world was fair we'd be consuming 75% of the world's resources and no one dare complain. When the rest of the world bitches about it it's because they are ungrateful wretches - without America the world would still be living in 1910 (although it should be noted that Muslim countries still live in 632 A.D.).




What's you favourite part of this quote? Is it the sheer unadulterated ethnocentrism? Is it the racism? Is it the callous insensitivity toward the suffering of those millions living in poverty through no fault of their own? Is the disregard for the adverse effect that rampant American consumerism is having on our fragile planet? Or is it the dig that he has against Muslims even though they actually have nothing to do with the subject he is 'discussing'?



Ruby


Quotes from Planck's Constant. No link. Google it yourself if you really feel the need to read more.



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Comment by Morgan Bell

May 16th 2008 07:26
that was really funny!
i dont spose he realises america gained alot of its wealth though opportunistic and exploitive behaviour that ravaged the economy and culture of some of these countries?
or that americans poach scientists and professionals from all over the world, its not like being born (white) in america makes you genetically smarter or something!
im sure if we set up an arms factory in ethiopia and gave them the monopoly over benefitting from war and conflict all over the world they might have a little more food on their plates too!

Comment by RubySoho

May 16th 2008 08:20
Don't go been all rational and logical now Morgan!

To be honest that's one of his more tame posts. My favourite ones are where he says that the whole world should be grateful to Bush for making the world a safer place by "keeping the terrorists busy in Iraq".

Yes I know, why the hell do I read his blog? Because its like the proverbial accident on the highway...I know I shouldn't look, but oh fuck it, I just can't help myself!


Comment by Winston

May 16th 2008 13:59
*sigh* That's even slightly insane by Anne Coulter standards.

To be fair and balanced, Ruby, you should find a crazy liberal quote of the week as well. Our far lefties are just about as nuts as our far righties!

Comment by RubySoho

May 16th 2008 14:35
Haha you know what Winston? I'm one step ahead of you! I have just discovered how crazy your far lefties are for myself and am narrowing down my options for crazy liberal quote of the week.

It's funny you say that really as I just said the almost exact same thing on postmoderncritic's blog here: Really Long Link

you crazy yankees!

Comment by Jeff Musall

May 17th 2008 02:36
Good example, Ruby...you will find there are far too many out there...as for Winston's claim for balance...it is true, you might find a few "crazy liberal" quotes...but they pale in comparison in number and voracity (as well as the number and voracity of those who read and believe them) with the ravings of the right.

Comment by RubySoho

May 17th 2008 03:37
Hi Jeff, I have to say you are right. So far the crazy liberal quotes are really paling in comparison to the crazy conservatives. And they seem to have been posted in moments of frustration and anger, as opposed to all the conservative quotes I come across which, like the one I featured above, are quite calm, deliberate and thought out (well as thought out as such a quote can be).

But, I do think that any liberal who refuses to vote for Obama just because they think his calling a reporter "sweetie" is sexist is crazy and if he loses the election because bitter Clinton supporters choose to stay home and whine over the unfair treatment of their heroine, I will have to admit to myself that your whole bloody country is absolutely bonkers.

Comment by Jeff Musall

May 17th 2008 03:59
You are so right, to be so petty in selecting a vote would be crazy....I do hope it is only a "special few" who do something so stupid. I tell ya, if McCain does become president, it can only happen two ways. The vote is so widely manipulated as to constitute the end of democracy in America, or the American voter is so given over to fears and prejudices as to be duped again. Either way, if McCain is pres, I'm seriously considering going expat...

Comment by RubySoho

May 17th 2008 04:04
If McCain is president I am seriously considering moving to another planet.

Comment by Jeff Musall

May 17th 2008 04:12
Save me a seat on the spaceship!

Comment by postmoderncritic

May 18th 2008 12:06
>>If McCain is president I am seriously considering moving to another planet.

Save me a seat on the spaceship!


Me three! Lol. Well, that's one impulse. The other one is to move to America so I can experience whatever happens there in the next four years first-hand. God help me, I love that country... the third impulse is to set up my own business in Barcelona or Copenhagen (I have a Bulgarian passport which means I can legally live there and work, as long as I'm self-employed).

As for crazy conservatives, I don't know how you do it, Ruby- willingly subjecting yourself to their hate-laced rhetoric on a regular basis. Lol. It does make for entertaining reading though...

Thanks for linking to Relativity Watch!

Comment by Lester Caudill

May 18th 2008 13:40
If any of the crazy liberals (Obama, Clinton) win I want your seat.

Comment by RubySoho

May 18th 2008 13:56
Hello Lester! I was hoping I would hear from someone on the other side....if Obama or Clinton win, you won't need to go all intergalactic on us because the rest of the world will be a better place....I'm sure you will find that everyone will have more respect for America again....and there probably won't be as many people dying in unjust wars either...

Now, if the idea of universal healthcare, a fair day's pay for a fair day's work, equal rights for women and a non-interventionist foreign policy really make you angry, well maybe you should ask yourself (as I do), why? Why are these policies crazy Lester? This is not a rhetorical question mind you...I really honestly do not understand why conservatives think the way they do...maybe you can be the one to fill me in?

But if you mention God, don't be surprised if I fall asleep on you...

Comment by RubySoho

May 18th 2008 13:59
Hi PMC, I'm with you, I can't help but love America, why do you think I am so obsessed with their politics? I don't love everything about America mind...but I spent some of the best years of my life there....and still want to go back...

Comment by postmoderncritic

May 18th 2008 14:03
Oh yay, a lot of people are like "Why on earth do you love America?!" so I'm glad someone understands... how long were you there for, and where were you? Also, do you intend to go back for real?

Comment by Lester Caudill

May 18th 2008 14:18
We conservative think sensable, realistic, and rational unlike Liberal who don't think at all.

First of all I don't live in the rest of the world I live in America, and only care what Americans think. That's really what you should be concerned about as well.

Second if being attacked by terrorist is acceptable to you then you won't mind having a liberal president.

Third if you like paying higher taxes for all the entitlements that will never solve the problems of the poor, and changing our country to a form of communism Then you will vote Liberal Obama, or Clinton

Comment by Morgan Bell

May 18th 2008 14:18
i wonder if we could trade our kevin for their hillary . . . if they dont end up using her that is! lol

Comment by Jeff Musall

May 18th 2008 14:22
Ruby, you hit on something most Americans don't get in your exchange with Lester...what he calls "crazy liberals" here in America really express what is very mainstream thought on issues taken for granted by those living in many other countries. Hillary Clinton would be a conservative in Europe. What has happened since Reagan is the entire spectrum has shifted to the right. Thankfully, the pendulum is swinging back and more sense is returning. Voices like Lester's are carrying far less import

Comment by RubySoho

May 18th 2008 14:22
I spent about three and a half years living all over the US and Canada. I love New York and San Francisco. I loved driving across the amazing landscape. I love the crazy people I met in the smoking carriage on Amtrak. I love that most of the people are so friendly. I loved that when they asked me where I was from and I said "Australia", no-one ever said "but where are you REALLY from?" like everyone does here. I love that despite the fact they have so many unprogressive people (sorry Lester!), holding them back they still find a way to move forward in science and literature and film and art and music...

Mostly I love New York. I was there again last summer (northern summer), and it was as amazing as I remembered it...I'd move there in a heartbeat. In fact one of my dreams is to get a Master's Degree in International Relations majoring in US and Middle East politics and move to New York and write about politics for the New York Times....don't have a hope in hell I know but a girl can dream can't she?

Comment by postmoderncritic

May 18th 2008 14:22
First of all I don't live in the rest of the world I live in America, and only care what Americans think. That's really what you should be concerned about as well.

Looks like you won't have to go far for your next Crazy Conservative of the Week post, Ruby... this is almost funny. Almost.

Comment by RubySoho

May 18th 2008 14:24
Hmmm. I wasn't expecting such an influx of comments. That last comment was for PMC- it seems very out of place coming after all those other ones though...

Comment by RubySoho

May 18th 2008 14:45
I can't keep up with you all haha.

Hello again Lester. Jeff is right, what many conservatives think are "loony lefty" liberal policies are pretty much accepted as fact in the rest of the world. In Australia we had a conservative government for 12 years that was heavily influenced by Republican policies and it was slowly eroding all the rights we took for granted- affordable education, healthcare, decent wages. It did it quite slowly and sneakily all the while distracting us by following your country into Iraq and the War on Terror so we nearly didn't notice until it was too late. The government went to far when it introduced new work legislation which abolished minimum wages, penalty rates and the right not to work on public holidays. It was all in the interests of a "free market economy" but was such a violation of human rights that Australia finally woke and got rid of that government last November.

Now to address your points:

1. You might not live in the rest of the world Lester, but I do. And with America being the only superpower (for now) whatever happens in America affects the rest of the world. Especially when it has such an interventionist foreign policy. Also, you must realise that the world is getting smaller? No country can afford to be isolationist anymore. The only way for our world to move forward is to work together. You really should start to be concerned about what the rest of the world thinks about America. We will only tolerate America's arrogant and aggressive behaviour for so long.

2. Um didn't 9/11 happen whilst a Republican was in office? Did you know that the Clinton Administration foiled two terrorist attacks planned on US soil on the eve of the millenium- one in Seattle, the other in New York? Did you know that one of the last things the Clinton administration did was warn the incoming Bush administration that an attack was imminent? That bin Laden was a real threat? Do you know what the Bush administration did?

Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

3. I don't understand why rich people complain about paying more tax. Why should a person who only earns
$35,000 a year pay the same in tax as someone who earns $100,000? It's all relative, if you can afford more, you should give more. And what's wrong with giving back to the community? Why be so selfish? I don't mind paying more tax then people who earn less than me. That's not communism Lester. That's simply giving a stuff about your fellow human beings.

Comment by Jeff Musall

May 18th 2008 15:28
Ruby, on 9/11 the Bush family did do something - Bush senior was haning out with Bin Ladin's brother and Bush The Lesser was reading a child's book. On the rich paying more taxes, the reasons you gave should be enough. But there is also the fact that they use more of the "commons" or the infrastructure. For example, if a wealthy man has a hundred employees....he depends on the educational system to give him educated workers, the road system to get them to work and move his products, the police/fire departments to protect his additional property, the regulatory processes, etc, etc....he derives far more benefit from the services paid for by taxes than one of his worlers does. He should be expected to pay more.

Comment by RubySoho

May 18th 2008 15:36
You know what Jeff? I never even thought about that. Of course, they benefit more from the services paid for by tax, they make money from it. I can't believe I didn't even think of that (too busy thinking about social justice and all that nonsense huh?)

Yeah the Bush's and the bin Ladins. Urgh..can't think about it...makes me sick...

Comment by Tom's Thoughts

May 18th 2008 23:14
Hey Ruby,

Thanks for your comment and effective advice, I appreciate people looking out for me at this stage of the game. I can't believe that quote, oh man, racism and self-importance are two of the worst things.

But hey, what's your screenplay about. It is hard to write one. Tell me honestly, is there any place in the modern world for a rom-com with a tragic ending. I know if I was Shakespeare I could pull it off, but I don't know, do people like that stuff anymore?

Tom

Comment by Lester Caudill

May 19th 2008 01:01
If Bill the zipper hadn't been busy with Monica Lewinsky, and would have done his job when Sudan offered Osama bin Laden, 9/11 would never have happen.

Do you think people should work just to support someone else? And as far as helping my fellow man not to boast I have given many times to people that were in need, I didn't have to give but I did because I wanted to. I just don't like the government taking more than they should.

But if you Liberal dems want to give more please feel free the IRS will not turn it down.

Comment by Jeff Musall

May 19th 2008 01:24
You know Lester, I just got home from an Obama rally here in Portland, Oregon that had a crowd of 75,000. There is a wave coming that will change America and begin to put us back into the company of respected nations and a country more concerned about the people than the corporations. That just might be why you are so bitter - you see the end of the conservative reign and are afraid.

Comment by postmoderncritic

May 19th 2008 02:16
Wow, Ruby, I would love to travel "all over" America - and Canada too! I've only been to Vancouver in the northernmost part of N. America... I lived close to San Francisco, in Stanford, and while I was reluctant to experience Stanford much the moment I got out of it - to San Fran, Santa Cruz, even Palo Alto, I fell in love...

I say hang onto your dream, because you never know what might happen...

Comment by RubySoho

May 19th 2008 04:52
Lester, please give me more information about Sudan 'offering' bin Laden. This is a big claim to make. I've heard Anne Coulter rabbitt on about this but as always, she never seems to back up her claims. Also referring to Clinton as "the zipper" is getting awfully tedious. The man cheated, he apologised HIS WIFE FORGAVE HIM! If his wife can forgive, who are you to hold a grudge?

No, I don't think people should work just to support someone else, but taxes are inevitable and necessary and they should be fair. Think about it. Say you have a council worker who earns $40,000 and you have an advertising copywriter who earns $100,000 a year. Both of these people work hard in their respective full time jobs. Is it really fair to tax them at the same rate? Paying $10,000 in tax is going to hurt the council worker far more than the copywriter. In fact, the copywriter could pay twice as much tax and still be far better off. It all about relativity.
But why do you complain about tax dollars going toward healthcare and welfare but you don't seem to have a problem with all the billions your government has squandered in Iraq?

It's good that you give to those in need, I don't mean to imply that you didn't, I just think that much of the complaints about tax seems to come from the wealthy who are happy to gain their fortunes from the hard work of those below them, but don't seem to want to give anything back.

Comment by RubySoho

May 19th 2008 05:00
Hello Tom and welcome,

Ah a RomCom tragedy. Sounds intriguing. I don't see why it wouldn't work.....I don't really like discussing my scripts in public (not being precious, just too insecure!) so drop me a private line). Do you have your own domain yet?

PMC- Yeah, the northwest of America is beautiful, I forgot to mention I also really like Jeff's corner of the world- Oregon.

Jeff, that rally must have been amazing. What an exciting time in history. Oh, I would love to be there feeling that wind of change...cue cheesy eighties power ballad now....

Comment by postmoderncritic

May 19th 2008 05:14
Yeah, I've heard the Pacific Northwest is very beautiful, and progressive, too. It seems that coastal communities tend to be very lucrative...
My No. 1 destination when I return to America will be New York... I've been to Buffalo, but not NYC, and I believe I'll enjoy it too, although I'm expecting to feel intimidated by the size of the population, and offended by their impersonality on the streets.

75,000 people - Wow! Go Obama!
One of my friends on Facebook just wrote that he wanted to shake the guy because speaking in public to a crowd of that many could be dangerous... hmmm.

Comment by Cibbuano

May 20th 2008 03:17
Ruby, PoMo, yes -travel in America! I must be one of the few non-Americans who shout out the virtues of traveling in that country.

What gorgeous natural environments! The canyons in Utah, the swamps in Florida, the mountains on the Eastern seaboard!

An aussie said to me this week, 'yeah, but the food's shit, mate...'

You can only say that if you take American food to be MacDonalds and KFC. If you sit down to a meal, it's absolutely glorious. The BBQ, the pizzas, the chinese food, the crab cakes, the clam chowder!

It's almost a global hobby to hate Americans, but if you actually meet Americans, you'll find that they're as varied as people in other countries. The regional differences in the accents is very interesting, you'll find a rich diversity in Hispanic and Black neighborhoods, not to mention every other ethnic minority.

I love visiting. But I deliberately turned down the idea of working or studying in America due to the political environment. And if McCain gets in, I'll do so again. I can't live there.

er... to summarize. America is fun!

Comment by RubySoho

May 20th 2008 04:14
Hi Cibb...there are a handful of area of America in which I could live- New York, San Francisco and possibly Seattle and Portland.

But when Obama wins...hopefully that'll be a taste of things to come and the beginning of the transformation of America...okay i have high hopes but every journey begins with a single step huh?

Comment by postmoderncritic

May 20th 2008 06:45
Cibb - I liked most of the food I had in America, I miss those delicious Mexican meals especially.

Ruby - In California, I could live in a lot of areas... my top picks would be San Francisco, Santa Cruz ( a beach town full of bohemians and eccentrics) and Berkeley (home of the UCB, full of colourful shops and opinionated people) in the Bay Area, though I wouldn't protest living in San Jose, Santa Clara or Palo Alto either. Heck, I wouldn't even mind living in Stanford again, because Palo Alto is just a few minutes' shuttle ride away. Then there's SoCal, which is pretty cool too, though I know the area in less detail. I'm more of a West Coast girl, but I can see myself enjoying New York or Boston. Miami maybe? Portland sounds lovely, though Seattle sounds rainy! Then there's other little progressive hot spots that I haven't been to, like Boulder, Colorado.
... Maybe I can marry a lovely girl or guy and move over there... again...
Or, perhaps I'll be able to support myself as an author later on and be able to live wherever I please.

Comment by Jeff Musall

May 21st 2008 01:51
You all hit on some very cool places...Yes, I do love Oregon...the Pacific Northwest is a unique part of the world. I've lived in many states, and find this region to be my favorite...I did visit Los Angeles in Feb, and they have made gains in cleaing it up since I lived there, and the attitudes seemed a little better. You couldn't drag me into living in the American South...
I must say, although I have been to several other countries, I have yet to visit Australia. I only got as close as Bali. I was actually planning on going down from there, but had to return to the US for a family funeral. I would still love to get down there!
PS...for the record, I'm not some jet setting rich guy....I spent some time in the Navy and worked in the airline business for several years, both gave me alot of travel..

Comment by RubySoho

May 21st 2008 04:38
Haha...it's a good thing you clarified Jeff, i was about to ask you not to visit my blog again....and for the record, I was a broke backpacker...i also spent about 6 months in LA...didn't care for it, though I did enjoy watching the basketball players on Venice beach and rollerblading to Santa Monica...ah the American south...i drove through there...got some hostile looks, in Alabama due to the California license plates (watch ya'll doin' in Birmingham?) and had a close encounter with a Texas sheriff- yes indeed, i thought i was going to spend the night in jail...ah the memories...oh i can joke now but let me tell you- one of the most frightening experiences of my life!


Comment by postmoderncritic

May 21st 2008 04:45
Wow, what happened with the Texas sheriff? Sounds scary.

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