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Gay Penguins Are Great Parents

December 17th 2008 12:42
Just a little evidence that supports what human homosexuals have argued all along. That being gay is not a choice, is completely natural and does not negatively impact on parenting abilities.

Oh and it's also incredibly heartwarming and just downright awesome.




From The Mail Online:


Gay penguins expelled from zoo colony for stealing eggs are given their own to look after following animal rights protest


A pair of gay penguins thrown out of their zoo colony for repeatedly stealing eggs have been given some of their own to look after following a protest by animal rights groups.

Last month the birds were segregated after they were caught placing stones at the feet of parents before waddling away with their eggs
.

Okay so maybe these gay penguins were just the teensiest bit naughty for stealing the eggs of other penguins but can you really fault them for wanting a baby penguin of their own?

But angry visitors to Polar Land in Harbin, northern China, complained it wasn't fair to stop the couple from becoming surrogate fathers and urged zoo bosses to give them a chance.

Go the animal rights activists! See, not all of them are crazy.

In response, zookeepers gave the pair two eggs laid by an inexperienced first-time mother.

'We decided to give them two eggs from another couple whose hatching ability had been poor and they've turned out to be the best parents in the whole zoo,' said one of the keepers.

Did you get that? The gay penguins made the best darn parents in the whole darn zoo.

It's very encouraging and if this works out well we will try to arrange for them to become real parents themselves with artificial insemination.


Amazing. Does anyone else find it incredible that gay penguins seem to be afforded more rights than gay humans?

Wildlife experts at the park explain that despite being gay the three-year-old male birds are still driven by an urge to be fathers.
'One of the responsibilities of being a male adult is looking after the eggs. Despite the fact that they can't have eggs naturally, it does not take away their biological drive to be a parent,' said one.


Well there you go and there you have it. Being gay does not stop you from wanting or deserving to be a parent. Nor will it automatically make you bad one.

Not so much different to the animal kingdom after all, are we?


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Comment by Morgan Bell

December 17th 2008 12:50
aha you beat me too it!
such a cute story!
a friend of mine forwarded me an article on this the other day and i never got round to putting it into a post . . . so glad someone did!

Comment by RubySoho

December 17th 2008 12:54
Well I'm glad I came in first on something! I'm usually two weeks behind the rest of the world, right alt_ed?

How cute is it?


Comment by Jeff Musall

December 17th 2008 15:28
Awesome! This is the first I've heard of the story, thanks for posting it! I will be looking for it here to see how much US press it gets...

Comment by Marty

December 17th 2008 17:59
GREAT STORY!
Just one of the Great Spirit's creatures doing the right thing. She definitely has her moments. Humankind could learn something from Penguins. Gotta give a little credit to the zookeepers for being smart enough to help out.

Comment by Chris Champion

December 17th 2008 20:52
That gave me a smile. Nice way to start the day.

Comment by Janet Collins

December 18th 2008 02:02
Amazing. Does anyone else find it incredible that gay penguins seem to be afforded more rights than gay humans?

Too right.

Comment by RubySoho

December 18th 2008 02:17
Thanks for the comments guys. I think I am in love with those penguins. I just can't stop smiling when I think of that couple "waddling away with the(ir) eggs".


Comment by alt_ed

December 18th 2008 02:58
2 weeks, FOUR years... what's the difference, behind is still behind MORON!

Dinitia Smith, New York Times
Saturday, February 7, 2004

New York -- Roy and Silo, two chinstrap penguins at the Central Park Zoo in Manhattan, are completely devoted to each other. For nearly six years now, they have been inseparable. They exhibit what in penguin parlance is called "ecstatic behavior": That is, they entwine their necks, they vocalize to each other, they have sex. Silo and Roy are, to anthropomorphize a bit, gay penguins.

When offered female companionship, they have adamantly refused it. And the females aren't interested in them, either.

At one time, the two seemed so desperate to incubate an egg together that they put a rock in their nest and sat on it, keeping it warm in the folds of their abdomens, said their chief keeper, Rob Gramzay. Finally, he gave them a fertile egg that needed care to hatch. Things went perfectly, and a chick, Tango, was born.

For the next 2 1/2 months they raised Tango, keeping her warm and feeding her food from their beaks until she could go out into the world on her own. Gramzay is full of praise. "They did a great job," he said.

Roy and Silo are hardly unusual. Indeed, scientists have found homosexual behavior throughout the animal world.

This growing body of science has been increasingly drawn into charged debates about homosexuality in American society, on subjects from gay marriage to sodomy laws, despite reluctance from experts in the field to extrapolate from animals to humans. Gay groups argue that if homosexual behavior occurs in animals, it is natural, and therefore the rights of homosexuals should be protected. On the other hand, some conservative religious groups have condemned the same practices in the past, calling them "animalistic."

But if homosexuality occurs among animals, does that necessarily mean it is natural for humans? And that raises a familiar question: If homosexuality is not a choice, but a result of natural forces that cannot be controlled, can it be immoral?

The open discussion of homosexual behavior in animals is relatively new.

"There has been a certain cultural shyness about admitting it," said Frans de Waal, whose 1997 book, "Bonobo: The Forgotten Ape" (University of California Press), unleashed a torrent of discussion about animal sexuality.

Bonobos, apes closely related to humans, are wildly energetic sexually. Studies show that whether observed in the wild or in captivity, nearly all are bisexual and nearly half their sexual interactions are with the same sex. Females have been observed to engage in homosexual activity almost hourly.

Before his own book, "American scientists who investigated bonobos never discussed sex at all," said de Waal, director of the Living Links Center of the Yerkes Primate Center at Emory University in Atlanta. "Or they sometimes would show two females having sex together, and would say, 'The females are very affectionate.' "

Then in 1999, Bruce Bagemihl published "Biological Exuberance: Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity" (St. Martin's Press), one of the first books of its kind to provide an overview of scholarly studies of same-sex behavior in animals. Bagemihl said homosexual behavior had been documented in some 450 species.

Last summer, the book was cited by the American Psychiatric Association and other groups in a "friend of the court" brief submitted to the Supreme Court in Lawrence vs. Texas, a case challenging a Texas anti-sodomy law. The court struck down the law.

In his book, Bagemihl describes homosexual activity in a broad spectrum of animals. He asserts that while same-sex behavior is sometimes found in captivity, it is actually seen more frequently in studies of animals in the wild.

Among birds, for instance, studies show that 10 to 15 percent of female western gulls in some populations in the wild are homosexual. Among mammals, male and female bottlenose dolphins frequently engage in homosexual activity, both in captivity and in the wild. Homosexuality is particularly common among young male dolphin calves. One male may protect another that is resting or healing from wounds inflicted by a predator. When one partner dies, the other may search for a new male mate.

Male and female rhesus macaques, a type of monkey, also exhibit homosexuality in captivity and in the wild. Males are affectionate to each other, touching, holding and embracing. Females smack their lips at each other and play games like hide-and-seek, peekaboo and follow the leader. And both sexes mount members of their own sex.

Some scientists say homosexual behavior in animals is not necessarily about sex. Marlene Zuk, a professor of biology at UC Riverside and author of "Sexual Selections: What We Can and Can't Learn About Sex From Animals" (University of California Press, 2002), notes that scientists have speculated that homosexuality may have an evolutionary purpose, ensuring the survival of the species. By not producing their own offspring, homosexuals may help support or nurture their relatives' young. "That is a contribution to the gene pool," she said.

Janet Mann, a professor of biology and psychology at Georgetown University who has studied same-sex behavior in dolphin calves, says their homosexuality "is about bond formation, not about being sexual for life."

She said studies show that adult male dolphins form long-term alliances, sometimes in large groups. As adults, they cooperate to entice a single female and keep other males from her. Sometimes they share the female, or they may cooperate to help one male.

"Male-male cooperation is extremely important," Mann said. The homosexual behavior of the young calves "could be practicing" for that later, crucial adult period, she added.

Scientists warn about drawing conclusions about humans. "For some people, what animals do is a yardstick of what is and isn't natural," Vasey said. "They make a leap from saying if it's natural, it's morally and ethically desirable."

But he added: "Infanticide is widespread in the animal kingdom. To jump from that to say it is desirable makes no sense. We shouldn't be using animals to craft moral and social policies for the kinds of human societies we want to live in. Animals don't take care of the elderly. I don't particularly think that should be a platform for closing down nursing homes."

What the animal studies do show, Zuk observed, is that "sexuality is a lot broader term than people want to think."

"You have this idea that the animal kingdom is strict, old-fashioned Roman Catholic," she said, "that they have sex just to procreate."

In bonobos, she noted: "you see expressions of sex outside the period when females are fertile. Suddenly, you are beginning to see that sex is not necessarily about reproduction."

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Comment by RubySoho

December 18th 2008 04:34
Haha. Well those were different penguins, you cold-hearted snake! You deceiver! You destructor!

And why didn't you put a comma after your second 'behind'? You expect me to take any notice of someone so lacking in basic grammatical skills?

Away with you!

Comment by Natalie 2

December 18th 2008 10:12
I find this article so charming! Thank you for sharing!

Comment by Morgan Bell

December 18th 2008 10:30
oh Ruby and alt_ed, perhaps i could moderate a debate between you two . . . the topic can be "heroes"

Comment by Nevar

December 18th 2008 12:17
This is an old story, as pointed out by alt_ed and a heart warmer, but it does illustrate a valid point; sexual orientation apparently isn't hard wired, but the need for companionship and perhaps love does seem to be hard wired into the human psyche.

Now that seems a bit odd, except when considered as a possible species survival tactic.

BTW, I have issued a writers challenge, here's the link: LINK


Comment by Kleonaptra

December 19th 2008 01:06
I really like the info in alt_eds article, but I dont think the 'scientists' are thinking hard enough.

I say it so often - but all animals are bisexual, they get in season and they'll do it with anyone. But to pair up in a homosexual orientation is actually about emotion and closeness.

I was shocked to read an article in the MX last week outlining how some scientists have been talking to The Times magazine about animal emotion. Through their studies with dogs they have learned that animals may be capable of the full range of human emotion. I was just stunned, because I thought generally, humans knew this already.

So, yes, animals fall in love, Ive seen it happen, personalities click together and they just decide who their partner is. We can learn so much from animals - I have even seen true love between different species. I think the support these penguins has been given is fantastic.

Meanwhile I observe the odd relationship between the show horse and the colt - we have called the show horse the 'unofficial mardigras mascot' since he was born, he is just such a queen. Loves to be pretty, loves to flirt. Now he's best buddies with the colt, and sometimes I see them snuggling and its like "Oh, you boys are so cute....Wait. You both have your doodles out!"

Comment by Anonymous

December 19th 2008 01:15
. . . doodles out?

hahahaha, that is a great line.

Comment by Bryn

December 19th 2008 07:27
The best news story of the year, flippers, er, hands down.

Comment by Raoul Duke

December 19th 2008 07:28
I'm starting a band called The Gay Penguins.

Comment by Dianna G

December 21st 2008 09:38
Ruby,

Hah. What do the people against gay parenthood have to say about THAT?

I think this is wonderful. Made me smile. Now if people could understand just how like those penguins gay humans are... it would be a great leap for humanity, let me tell you.

~Dianna

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