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Is 'Twilight' Really Mormon Propaganda?

March 16th 2009 03:28

I have heard much criticism about Twilight. Most of it I would say is founded. Shonky special effects which may have been impressive if I was only 12 years old and the year was 1972. Wooden acting from the least charasmatic and engaging lead performer I have seen since Nicole Kidman donned a prosthetic nose. An uninspiring script and a message, which, and please correct me if I am wrong, seems to be telling young girls that its okay to deny who you really are completely submit to the totally hot guy you have a crush on.

I totally agree with all of that. As a product, the film sucks. But the really interesting criticism goes further than that and centres on its origins- as a book by the young American Mormon writer Stephenie Meyer. The book's critics claim that the novel is thinly disguised Mormon propaganda, designed to make the questionable beliefs and practices of the cult/religionattractive to impressionable young teens and tweens. I have to say they might be onto something. The Mormon Church promotes abstinence and young people are encouraged to fight temptation and resist the pleasures of the flesh just as Edward Cullen and his pale faced family resist the temptation to savour the blood of humans. Is the Cullen family's abstinence from sucking the blood of vulnerable humans really a metaphor for not having sex? Does the god-like Edward Cullen, with his superhuman speed and strength really represent the man turned into god that Mormon believe is the destiny of those that follow their teachings? And just as Bella succumbs to the charms of Edward and eventually gets turned into a vampire herself so she can be with him "forever and ever and ever", is the book really encouraging young girls to submit to the men in their lives?

And even if this is the case, does any of this really matter? Can we still appreciate the books at face value and be grateful to Meyer that she got an entire generation of girls reading again? Or should we be afraid that these same girls are been discouraged from thinking for themselves? There is no doubting the Cullen Craze. My own niece has repeatedly declared that she will gladly let herself be turned into a vampire if it means she can be him. But it is doubtful that she will ever be exposed to the Mormon Church and its teachings directly. So is there really any harm done? As a rule, I loathe books and films that have an underlying religious theme. But if there are no direct references, if so many millions are reading the novels without ever seeing the connection, then is there really any harm done? Will the Twilight series turn this generation of girls into budding Mormons or simply ignite a love of reading?

Can we take Twilight at face value?

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Comment by Morgan Bell

March 16th 2009 04:17
i can see the abstinence metaphor but then again i can see it in most vampire flicks, as i think the vampire is used as the personification of how your personality (spirit/soul) will change if you have sex . . . or more specifically extra-marital sex, teen sex, gay sex, or promiscuous sex

i can also see the cult element, as part of Edwards attractiveness is his family - dating Edward means getting accepted and included by a whole group of "family" and for a young girl in a new town it seems the ideal way to make friends


Comment by Postmodern Critic

March 16th 2009 04:41
What it may do is make them more open to the idea of the Mormon faith when they come across it later... they might be led to believe that 'something about it feels familiar' or even 'right'.
And yes, vampires often represent the dark, subversive side of a personality, including sexual desires which are not seen as the norm/socially acceptable.

Would be interesting to read more discussion of film from you!

Comment by RubySoho

March 16th 2009 11:24
Hi girls, I think PoMo has hit the nail on the head. It's almost like the book (vampirism) is a precursor to the real thing (mormonism). The difference between the traditional vampire and the Cullen vampires is that the Cullens abstain and as a result they achieve a higher plane of existence. Isn't Edward meant to be some sort of god?

Does Bella's eventual transition to being part of the Cullen family of vampires mean that women should submit to the men in their lives? Is this is good message to our next generation of women? I honestly still have not made up my mind.

Comment by Jeff Musall

March 17th 2009 00:40
Haven't seen the film...I will in the future, not because of any interest in the story, but because most of it was filmed right around where I live. So I can't speak directly to any subtle religious message, except to say that to do so is a specific direction fundamentalist religious movements have taken, from films and "rock" music to skate and bmx fairs with christian overtones.

Comment by Anonymous

March 24th 2009 00:45
This movie is totally ridiculous, have not read the book but totally got the same impression as you from just th e movie... and the worst part is that most of my friends (in their twenties) do no agree with me or see where I am comming from....HELLOOOO people do you just blindly follow the crowd...this movie SUCKED (hahah) also the "chemistry" in the movie was horrible.
Written produced and directed by women... the whole point (that I got) from the movie was throw everything away for some guy at a young age......

Comment by Janet Collins

March 30th 2009 23:36
I didn't know about this movie but it certainly is interesting what you have said about it.

Comment by Anonymous

April 7th 2009 11:01
Have you considered the more obvious conclusion?
Twilight isn't thinly disguised propaganda for Mormonism, the Mormon religion is thinly disguised propaganda for vampires!

Comment by Anonymous

April 20th 2009 22:59
If you are going to find a problem (or a religious coop, or a conspiricy theory, or whatever it is you have found) in every book and movie that you watch a suggest you stop reading books and stop watching movies. In every piece of modern literature (wether it be books, movies, music, ext.) there will be something that offends someone. Twilight is a brilliantly writen novel (and based on a dream, not a religous hoax), and the movie is extremly good. Kristen Stuart and Robert Pattinson did extremly well playing this immortal Romeo and Juliet couple. Any one who had a problem w/ the movie was looking at individule pieces, not sitting back and watching the story unfold. If You Lived Forever, What Would You Live For?

Comment by Thoraiya Dyer

April 23rd 2009 00:22
Interesting coincidence that I decided to have a browse on Orble right after reading this hilarious (albeit terrifying - because I didn't know a whole lot about Mormons before) Twilight spork:

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So.

The argument seems pretty conclusive.

Is Twilight Mormon propoganda?

Intentionally or unintentionally - yes.

Does it really matter?

The obvious analogue is the Narnia series by CS Lewis. I loved it as a child. It didn't, however, convert me to Christianity. In fact, once I was old enough to realise Aslan was Jesus, I stopped enjoying it.

Have any studies been done on the effect of the Narnia books on the impressionable minds of youth and their subsequent religious affiliations?

It would be a difficult association to prove, with so many millions of factors to take into account.

Comment by Anonymous

May 12th 2009 06:54
Give me a break. Whether the author is Mormon, Catholic, or Buddhist , who an author is, or what they believe will permeate in everything they do. Everything is propaganda - you promote one thing or you promote the other - there is no neutrality in anything - so give the author a break. Just wish I could write could write a book on anything and sell 10 million copies.


Comment by Anonymous

July 12th 2009 00:04
You forgot one thing: the obvious anti-abortion message. According to the final book, even if carrying your baby full term will cause a horrible, painful death, you still shouldn't abort.

Comment by Anonymous

July 12th 2009 08:44
This book has not inspired a love of reading for a generation, it's the most obbsessed about piece of trash ever. The young girls reading this don't gain a love or appreciation for literature, just silly unrealistic views. It's sad that I grew up loving Lord of the Rings, Chronicles of Narnia, and the Harry Potter series, and now preteen girls are obsessed with this one dimensional garbage.

Comment by Anonymous

July 20th 2009 02:41
what about people [mainly young girls] who would think after reading a book think a abusive partner is their edward

Comment by dollyrox

October 11th 2009 04:29
no i do not believe that the twilight saga is mormon propaganda. yes their are some similarities but that is only to be expected, shes a mormon writer. all writers put a bit of themselves into their writing. what you said about edward representing the god we can all become (according to mormonism) is, i believe, false. he is simply her 'dream man', in vampire form. alot of the extra powers that he and his family are capable of, reading the future, mindreading, their speed, their beauty, are profound parts of other vampire books. (cirque du freak (darren shan) and the new tales of vampires (ann rice) are good examples) even the resistance to human blood is shared, to an extent. and remember that not all of meyers vampires resist. some thrive on it happily, and the cullen and denali families are the exceptions.
i also see very little connection to abstaining to blood and abstaining to sex. after all, they treat the 2 completely differently, they are separate issues.
also, on the point of edward being a god, remember that he only looks that way because you are looking at him through bellas eyes. to other humans, he is beautiful, yes, but scary. and remember that, far from just trying to submit women to men, edward regards bella with the same reverence, if not more ferocious.
finally, as a young girl who has read and loved this series since the beginning, i do not believe that it will create any more mormons. it may open people up to the idea simply by giving them more information than they would have had access to before the twilight craze, but i do not believe that it will sway anyone toward it. personally, i am an atheist, and i love books that have a light religious undertone, because i believe that it generally makes books more interesting, gives them more depth, and makes them more sincere and heartfelt, if that makes sense. i compare it to c.s. lewis chronicles of narnia, which have blatant religious themes throughout the series. when i became old enough to understand this, far from turning me from the story, made me more interested. i love reading books that make you really think about them, even after you read them, and it added a new level to the story for me to think about.
sorry this is so long winded or if it doesnt make complete sense to you, but i dont believe you should want to take it at face value, not really. i think that if you can find anything that you consider religious underlay, [weather i agree or not(: ] you should just enjoy it for the story it is, as it is. feel free to respond or ask me questions, because i know i can be a little unclear about my meaning sometimes.

Comment by Twifemme

October 20th 2009 20:21
The book is written by a Mormon, and thus it is going to express her beliefs in what true love should look like. That doesn't mean that it's propaganda any more than The Princess Bride is Christian propaganda because it portrays heterosexual love.
Also, I don't think Bella is denying who she 'really is' because of love. I think the book portrays that she finds herself through Edward, realises how much more there is in the world and follows her passion.
Bella is not some weak girl who can only find herself in a man, she displays plenty of independence and agency. It's just that he is what she wants. It is also clear that Edward is far more dependent on Bella than she is on him. She seems stronger than him. In New Moon, when he leaves she is absolutely broken. However, after a few months she starts to pick herself back up, problematically sure, but she makes headway. Edward on the other hand, refuses to live without her. Moreover, when Edward does deny Bella agency, such as leaving her for her own good, we see that he is wrong to do so.
Sure, Bella needs to be saved a whole lot. But, when she finally realises her true self (as a vampire), she is the one who saves everyone. Bella is a great example of a strong, intelligent, independent woman.
It is only in the film that she seems weak.

Comment by Anonymous

November 22nd 2009 13:23
its a romance novel with a bit of vampire lore ripped off from a few sources to make it more appealing to air head girls.

There is no such thing as a prince charming. Good looking guys are jerks, less attractive guys aren't "bad", or sexy enough.

They need to stop filling young girls with these completely impossible notions of what love is supposed to be.
As Bill Mahr put it.
Women have no right to complain about men, till they start having better taste in them.

Comment by Anonymous

November 23rd 2009 13:15
Yawn....those of you who are Mormon propaganda theorists... get a life. This book has nothing to do with the LDS Church (unless its run by vampires) its about the individual who writes the book and her imagination. Its neither interesting nor relevent. I love great literature How many of you have read Brothers Karamazov, from concept to publication 2 years published as a newspaper column hugely popular with the general public and is now regarded as one of the great works of literature? You cannot criticize a book for selling 70m ...it moves people and you are mocking the intellect of the readers not criiticizing the writer. For those of you quoting Tolkien and Lewis ...give me a break thats reading 101.

Comment by Morgan Bell

November 24th 2009 13:30
im not sure if you would find the Twilight series in the "literature" section of the bookstore, its more genre fiction

i have found the films entertaining, they do have appeal, but i can see their flaws too

Comment by Anonymous

November 25th 2009 02:57
You can't possibly believe that Twilight is a brilliantly written novel. You can, but ignorance would definitely have to play a factor in it. Once you learn anything about the process of writing you begin to understand that the only reason the book has any success is because of the allure it has, not for the literary quality or artistic expertise.

Comment by Anonymous

December 17th 2009 23:16
I think that it can be reasonably inferred that Twilight is at least encouraging values that are found in the Mormon religion, such as refraining from indulging primal desires and committing to one partner for one's entire life. the fact that these values are reminiscent of religious values does not concern me. what does is the heights to which the text takes these values. In Twilight, Bella commits herself to a semi abusive relationship with Edward, based on the idea that she is committed to him forever. this frightens me, especially when i hear a 12 year old girl remarking that she wishes she could find her "Edward." the fact that children are enculturated into the into the idea that an abusive relationship is alright as long as it is a committed one is appalling.

Comment by Anonymous

February 13th 2010 07:22
As someone who is a writer, grew up Mormon, and has lived in Utah all my life, I can say with certainty that Meyer is putting her beliefs into the books. She's not trying to convert people, but her beliefs are part of her life and therefore are present in her imagination. I don't know anyone who would read these books and wonder what religion she is and want to convert. There's no logic in that assumption.

Many of the Mormon people I know who love these books love them because they think they represent Mormon values; i.e. chastity, eternal love & marriage. (For those who don't know, Mormons believe that being married in the temple seals you to your spouse for all eternity, beyond death and resurrection.) Some Mormons don't have any qualms with young marriage (although, many don't believe it's a good idea nowadays). Most Mormons love the idea of children right off. These ideals are present in the books because she believes they are okay. I can't explain the total "devotion" Bella has for Edward or why she never explains why she loves him except for his looks. She's just shallow and he's controlling. I won't go into that...

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